Continuing my history of bubblegum music, originally published in the April 25, 1997 issue of Goldmine. It was subsequently edited for an appearance in the book Bubblegum Music Is The Naked Truth,
partially for length and style, but also to avoid duplication with
subjects discussed elsewhere in the book. Writer Gary Pig Gold and I
revamped my original article's section on The Monkees into an amusing
debate on whether or not The Monkees were every really a bubblegum
group. Except for some minor editing, this restores the original, full-length piece as it appeared in Goldmine. You can read Part 1 and Part 2
You can also read about what it might have been like If The Archies Had Been A Real Band
No Sleep 'Til Riverdale
The story of how a TV cartoon group based on a then-20-year-old comic strip came to be the hottest band in the land has its roots in what happened with the previous made-for-TV rock 'n' roll group.
"The whole thing about The Archies
was that it was Don Kirshner's revenge," Bill Pitzonka says. "That was
the whole story behind The Archies. He was really upset that he was
ousted from The Monkees and he said, 'I'm gonna make sure, I'm not gonna
have anybody take this away from me. I'm gonna make a two-dimensional
band.'"
For The Archies, Kirshner enlisted songwriter
and producer Jeff Barry to oversee the music. And, with cartoon
characters fronting the act, and without any pesky Monkees around to
complicate matters, the singers and players on The Archies' records
would be anonymous. The anonymous voice of The Archies belonged to a
young singer-songwriter named Ron Dante (nee Carmine Granito), who'd
previously visited the pop charts as the lead singer on The Detergents'
1965 novelty hit, "Leader Of The Laundromat."
Like Joey Levine, Ron Dante was introduced to music through his father.
"A
guy who worked for my dad was in a group called The Elegants," Dante
says, "and had a hit record called 'Little Star.' And it was 1969, I
think [NOTE: it was 1958], and it was the # 1 record at the time. And
he was the bass singer. He had worked for my dad. And he took me to
one of their sessions when I was around 14. And I got the bug. I said,
'This is great!' I thought it was all magic; I had no idea how they made a record.
"So
it kind of inspired me, and I just started to form little groups and
things, you know, played little local CYO centers and stuff and YMCAs,
whatever I could get where there was a stage and they needed a band.
"So
I had a band for a while. And I started writing some songs. Since I
lived in New York City in one of the boroughs [NOTE: yay, Staten
Island!], I would go to Manhattan on my off hours, with my guitar, and
visit the Brill Building, and also another building called 1650, which
was around the corner, [and] was part of that Brill Building-Tin Pan
Alley type scene.
"And I kept walking into people's
offices, and I got a manager, " Dante says with a laugh. "I'd just walk
in and say, 'I'm a singer, I'm a writer, anybody wanna listen to me?'
Any publisher, anything that had anything to do with music, I would walk
in. I would walk into classical record [firms], jazz, I'd walk into
any kind of company before I finally found a pop company. And I found a
manager, and he took me up to audition for Don Kirshner, after about
six months of being managed. And Don Kirshner signed me as a
singer-songwriter when I was in my teens."
Dante's first single was called "Little Little Lollipop," released under the name Ronnie Dante.
"Yeah,
it was a definite bubblegum song," Dante says. "I wrote it with two
friends of mine, Danny Jordan and Tommy Wynn. And we recorded a demo,
and they put the demo out on some label; Steve Lawrence's brother had a
label, and he put it out on his label. So that was my very first.
That, and I had another record I did with somebody at 1650, which was
called 'Kai-Wakki-Kumba,' which was a kind of 'Wimoweh'-type record.
And that came out, but I have never seen it. To this day, I have never
seen a copy of it. But that was like the first few records that
actually got released. I was thrilled.
"[Then] I met a
fellow named Paul Vance, and Lee Pockriss, two songwriter-producers who
had written 'Itsy Bitsy Teenie Weenie Yellow Polka Dot Bikini.' And
they had a record for me as a soloist called 'Don't Stand Up In A
Canoe.' So I recorded it, and it came out and it got a lot of
attention. It got some play in New York City as I remember, but it
wasn't a hit."
Although "Don't Stand Up In A Canoe" didn't chart, Dante's union with Vance and Pockriss would soon prove beneficial.
"So
about six months later they had this novelty idea," Dante continues.
"They wrote a song--these are the same fellows who wrote 'Catch A
Falling Star' for Perry Como many, many years earlier--and they wrote
'Leader Of The Laundromat.' And they said, 'Why don't you come in and
do one of the voices on the record?'
"Leader Of The
Laundromat," a broad but cute parody of The Shangri-Las' "Leader Of The
Pack," was a # 19 hit at the end of 1964. Dante had already split from
Kirshner at this point.
"I had left Don Kirshner after
about two to three years of being with him," he says. "Things weren't
happening, and I saw this opportunity to get recorded and out. So I
didn't speak to him for a few years, three or four years."
Dante toured with The Detergents for a while before returning to New York and a new career making commercials.
"Right
after The Detergents came off the road," Dante says, "we were on the
road for about a year, year and a half--I came back to New York City and
I kind of became popular doing some commercials. A few of my demo
people--I used to do demos for people, I'd be their singing voice on
their songs--they started to write commercials. I ended up singing for
Johnson's Baby Oil and all kinds of products that had just started,
Kleenex, Campbell's Soup. So by the time I got to do The Archies again I
had become a full-fledged jingle singer, where I would do four or five
sessions a week at least, maybe more sometimes."
And, at this point, Riverdale beckoned.
"I
heard they were auditioning for The Archies. A friend of mine was
playing in the band, he said, 'They're looking for a voice.' And I
said, 'Well, I know Don Kirshner, he started me.'
"So I
called, and the office set up an appointment, and I walked into RCA
studio. And there was the writer, Jeff Barry, producer, and Kirshner.
And they auditioned me, they said, 'Well, can you do different type of
voices?' So I did, like, two or three different type of voices for Jeff
and Donnie, and they finally locked into one sound. They said, 'Oh,
you'll be good for this sound, let's use that one.'
"In
fact," adds Bill Pitzonka, "Ron Dante wasn't even the original guy they
were considering to do The Archies. He went to an audition and was
taken to the audition by Ron Frangipane, who was the arranger for the
sessions. And he went to the auditions, Don Kirshner and Jeff Barry
listened to him. And I don't remember who it was who really flipped out
over him. One of them had to be persuaded by the other one, because
they both had worked with him. So he wound up cutting over 150 songs
for The Archies."
Regardless of who else was considered
for the singing voice of Archie Andrews, it was indeed Ron Dante who
got the gig. Dante would sing lead on every single Archies track on
five albums, plus the mountain of unreleased Archies tracks said to be
languishing in Don Kirshner's vaults. Back-up singers would come and
go, and singer Toni Wine would provide occasional second lead vocals on
the early records (notably on "Sugar, Sugar"), but the guy in front was
always Dante.
Oddly enough, there may be some who believe the voice of The Archies was...Joey Levine?
"You know," Dante says, "my friend Joey Levine did The 1910 Fruitgum Company and '1-2-3 Red Light' [CC'S NOTE: Noooooooooooooooooooo!].
The Fruitgum Company actually probably gave bubblegum its name. He'd
taken credit for my records half [the time]. The last interview I saw
with Joey Levine, he was taking credit for 'Sugar, Sugar.' I called him
up--it was in New York magazine--I said, 'Joey, what's
wrong with you? Don't you have enough credit? You're only the biggest
commrcial producer, jingle producer, in town, in New York.' And he
misspelled my name! So if you would do me a favor, in this interview,
mention that 'Joey Levin'--please do this for me, Joey L-A-N-E-N,
something like that. Misspell his name. Don't dare spell his name
correctly, because I know he definitely did that to me. He took credit
for 'Sugar, Sugar' in that New York interview, and he went ahead and misspelled my name," Dante says, laughing.
Joey Levin, er, Lanen, um--Levine
(whew!) replies, "I think I gave him credit for The Archies. I said I
sang with groups, I never sang lead with The Archies. I was asked to
sing lead for The Archies, and I turned it down because they didn't want
to pay royalties. They wanted to pay session payments, double session
payments, and I said I wouldn't do it. I said, you know, my sound's too
identifiable, I'm gonna be this group, I'm not gonna get paid as an
artist. And they didn't really need an artist; 'It's all our concept,
Jeff Barry's writing all the songs, all we really need's a voice.'
"So
Ronnie did it. So I didn't really do anything with them. I sang,
there's some backgrounds, because I sang backgrounds with a lot of
people in those days, The Monkees and The Archies and all of those
things. I'd be like one of the singers in New York that would show up
on background sessions and things for people. But Ronnie's definitely
The Archies, him and Toni Wine and Ellie Greenwich, they were the main
core Archies. Jamie Carr, I think, may have been in there.
"Ronnie's
only pissed off because they got his name wrong in the article. They
called him 'Ronnie Dugan' or something. Which I said [to him], 'Hey
Ronnie, I didn't call you Ronnie Dugan, I remember your name,' I said.
'But at least I gave you credit!'" he concludes with a laugh. "He's a
nice guy, Ron."
"Once in a while we had groups," Dante
recalls, "and Jeff Barry would sing with me. People would come in and
out in the background groups. But I was the lead voice on every one of
the records. I mean, some girls came in, a few background singers.
Toni Wine, of course, sang on 'Sugar, Sugar,' she was that famous solo
voice just for one line [NOTE: the bubblegum-friendly line "I'm gonna
make your life so sweet"]. We did maybe an album's worth of material
with Toni. So the background group was Toni Wine, Jeff Barry, and Ron
Dante. It was nice."
Although The Archies'
record-making machinery was obviously cast in the image of The Monkees'
hit factory, it did not duplicate The Monkees' immediate sales and radio
success. While The Monkees' debut recordings in 1966 were instant
hits--the "Last Train To Clarksville" single went to # 1, and the LP The Monkees topped Billboard's
chart for 13 weeks--The Archies' success was far less dramatic. The
debut single, "Bang-Shang-A-Lang," was a # 22 hit, but the album The Archies stalled at # 88. And the second single, "Feelin' So Good (S.K.O.O.B.Y.-D.O.O.)," never climbed above a disappointing # 53.
The
Archies' chart fortunes changed dramatically, of course, with the third
single, "Sugar, Sugar," a # 1 smash for four weeks in 1969. And,
considering The Monkees' own fading success in 1969, the ascent of
"Sugar, Sugar" must have made Kirshner's revenge seem all the more
triumphant.
For the record, it should be noted that
Dante is unaware of The Monkees ever being offered "Sugar, Sugar." "I
don't know about that story," he says. "To me, it seemed that 'Sugar,
Sugar' was written for the project; it was written for The Archies
specifically as I remember. Because everything I thought was being
written at the same time."
While the success of "Sugar, Sugar" was no doubt gratifying to Dante, it was an anonymous success.
"When
'Sugar, Sugar' became the # 1 hit in the country, people were still
asking me what was I doing, was I doing anything with my career, 'Are
you okay, are you still singing those jingles?'
"And then, on a Sunday night, I heard that The Archies were going to be on The Ed Sullivan Show.
And I turned it on, and sure enough he introduced the # 1 record in the
country this week, 'Sugar, Sugar' by The Archies. And then they played
the cartoon from the TV show. So I got to be on The Ed Sullivan Show, but not on.
"It
was wonderful, because it was my first # 1 record with my voice
singing,and it was frustrating because I really wasn't known. It was an
anonymous thing--it was a children's project for Saturday morning TV
stuff that became a popular record kind of eccentric thing. So it was
frustrating at the time."
Even among the few who knew that Dante was the voice of The Archies, respect was not necessarily forthcoming.
"And
a lot of my friends thought bubblegum music was really hokey," Dante
says. "And they said, 'How can you even do this kind of stuff? This is
embarrassing. You know, we're rock 'n' rollers, we're hip. It's the
late '60s, everybody's hip, Jim Morrison and The Doors, The Rolling
Stones, and here you are in this bubblegum group.'"
But even then, Dante knew there was some merit in bubblegum.
"When
the record went # 1," Dante says, "I knew it was in the history books.
And then it became the # 1 record of the year, meaning it got more time
in the # 1 position and sold more than any other single. And that was
the year of "Honky Tonk Women" and "Aquarius/Let The Sun Shine In," two
huge, powerful singles. [NOTE: The Billboard Book Of Number One Hits credits "Sugar, Sugar" as the top single of 1969, but Joel Whitburn's Top Pop Singles 1955-1993
gives that honor to "Aquarius/Let The Sun Shine In (The Flash
Failures)" by The Fifth Dimension, with six weeks in the top spot to
"Sugar, Sugar"'s four.]
"So when I noticed that Billboard
gave us the # 1 spot for the year, I figured somebody would always
wanna know a little bit about this record. Because it became part of
the history, like there was only one 1969 and there's only one # 1
record for that year by Billboard's calculation. So I figured somebody would be talking about it.
"And
also it was a TV show. But I am astounded that it has had so many
incarnations, where they've put it in movies and things, and TV shows
and commercials. So that's astounding, because I know Jeff wrote it in
about five minutes," Dante says with a laugh. "I don't think he took a
long time writing 'Sugar, Sugar.'"
Dante remembers Jeff Barry leaving the project around this time, following the second album, Everything's Archie, which was soon re-titled Sugar, Sugar to capitalize on the single's success.
"Jeff
came in for the first album, and maybe the second one," Dante says. "I
don't remember if he was involved in the second album. But he did the
first season's music for the TV [show]. And then I think he just got
involved in other things--his own label, Bobby Bloom, Andy Kim. There
were other people involved in the next consecutive album. I actually
produced one or two of them."
Barry did, however,
co-write (with "Sugar, Sugar" collaborator Andy Kim) and produce the
next single, "Jingle Jangle," an irresistible confection that made it to
# 10 in late '69.
[NOTE: Jeff Barry is listed as the
producer of the first four Archies albums, as well as the single "Who's
Your Baby?". And, although Toni Wine is widely said not to have
appeared on "Jingle Jangle," it most certainly is her doing the fab
Betty/Veronica voices on that single.]
Still, that was
about it for The Archies as far as big hits were concerned. The 1970
"Who's Your Baby?" and "Sunshine" singles charted at # 40 and # 57
respectively. Not counting a greatest-hits set, there were two more
Archies albums, Sunshine and This Is Love. But there was a lot more Archies music recorded.
"There
had to be hundreds and hundreds of songs," Dante says. "Because we
were putting two or three in each show, and it was on for three
seasons. So we did a lot of that music for the show. And then we did
five or six albums--I thought there might have been a sixth, there may
be a sixth album that was recorded. So there was at least six albums'
worth of material, and then the TV stuff. So there was a lot of
material recorded. I remember doing 20 to 30 songs in a two or three
week period for the TV show. They didn't use all the stuff we did, so
there's a lot of archival material still existing."
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